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The early broad-barrel Leica Elmar 9cm f/4, introduced in 1931 with a four-element design, fifteen-blade diaphragm and varied LTM coupling.

Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”

Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”

LTM mount

€802

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The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” is a LTM-mount lens for Leica rangefinder cameras. As of October 2026, it sells from €802 used across 2 listings, with a 30-day median of €861. Leica price index →

How it compares

Measured against the 14 other 90mm LTM-mount lenses in the catalogue.

340 g Weight Lighter than 25% of them
f/4 Maximum aperture Faster than 14% of them

Specification

Focal Length: 90mm
Aperture: 𝑓/4
Release Year (from): 1931
Production Year (to): 1932
Diameter: 58 mm
Filter Size: 36 mm (E36)
Length: 72 mm
Minimum Focus Distance: 1.8m
Elements in Groups: 4/3
Aperture Blades: 15
Mount: LTM
Material Weight: Aluminum and Brass, 340g

About this lens

Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” is the first large-barrel version of Leitz’s 90mm Elmar telephoto lens for Leica screw-mount cameras. Introduced in 1931, it is distinguished by its broad black-enamel barrel, nickel-plated fittings and substantially heavier construction than the slimmer Elmar 9cm lenses that followed. The terms “Fat Elmar” and “Thick Elmar” are later collector descriptions rather than official Leitz model names.

The lens uses a four-element, three-group Elmar optical design, with the rear elements cemented together. Its brass construction, fifteen-blade diaphragm and long focusing movement reflect early Leitz manufacturing practice. Depending on the version, focusing may be uncoupled or mechanically coupled to the camera rangefinder. The front accepts 36mm clamp-on accessories rather than the E39 screw-in filters associated with later Elmar 9cm versions.

Several mechanical forms appeared during the lens’s short production period. Documented examples include uncoupled and rangefinder-coupled lenses, barrels with different knurling patterns, lenses without external serial numbers and later numbered examples. The order codes ELANG and ELANGKUP identify uncoupled and coupled configurations, although the code alone is not always sufficient to distinguish the Fat version from early slimmer Elmar variants.


Optical qualities

Rendering

Controlled modern testing of the Fat Elmar is limited. Surviving reports generally describe moderate contrast at wider apertures, with useful central detail and a distinctly early uncoated-lens character. Optical condition can strongly influence performance, particularly when haze, cleaning marks, internal contamination or coating alterations are present. Strong claims concerning bokeh, distortion or edge performance are therefore difficult to apply consistently across surviving examples.

Contrast and flare resistance

Original examples were produced before coated Leica lenses became standard. Uncoated specimens can show reduced contrast and increased flare when used against strong light. Some surviving lenses have coated elements, but these may reflect later factory or service treatment rather than the original production specification.


History

Development and Launch

Leitz introduced the Elmar 9cm f/4 in 1931 as a compact telephoto option for the expanding Leica interchangeable-lens system. The first version used the broad barrel now known among collectors as the Fat Elmar. Its 90mm focal length offered a longer perspective for portraiture, travel and distant subjects while retaining the established Elmar optical concept.

Production Evolution

The Fat Elmar was produced only briefly before Leitz introduced a slimmer and lighter barrel design around late 1932 or early 1933. Early Fat lenses could be uncoupled and were sometimes supplied without externally engraved serial numbers. Rangefinder-coupled versions followed, including both unnumbered and serial-numbered examples. Differences in barrel knurling, depth-of-field markings and focusing construction help distinguish the known mechanical variations.

Published specifications do not always agree on weight. Variant-specific collector documentation gives approximately 314 g, while some compiled lens databases list approximately 340 g. Differences may reflect the exact mechanical version or whether caps and accessories were included during measurement.

Special Editions/Variants

No commemorative or formally named special edition of the Fat Elmar is widely documented. Its important variants are mechanical production forms rather than special editions. These include early uncoupled examples, rangefinder-coupled examples, lenses without external serial numbers and later numbered lenses. Coated surviving examples should be examined carefully because the coating may have been applied after initial production.

Special Editions/Variants

No official commemorative special editions are confirmed. The principal collectible variants are the uncoupled ELANG, coupled ELANGKUP, unnumbered examples and later serial-numbered examples.

Collector Notes

Collectors should verify the broad barrel shape because the ELANGKUP order code was also associated with early slimmer Elmar 9cm lenses. Originality checks should include the engraving style, nickel finish, knurling pattern, serial-number placement and rangefinder-coupling mechanism.

The optical unit should be inspected for haze, fungus, separation, cleaning marks and scratches. Repainted barrels, replacement screws, later-applied coatings and converted focusing mounts may affect collector value. Original caps, the FIKUS adjustable hood and appropriate A36 accessories add interest, but should not be treated as proof that the lens itself is fully original.

Historical lenses should not be judged from one sample alone. Haze, fungus, separation, cleaning damage, displaced elements and dried lubricant can alter contrast and focus more than modest design differences. Film choice, processing, digital sensor cover glass and adapter tolerances also influence results. A hood may reduce oblique flare but cannot correct internal contamination.


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Where to buy

Prices for Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”

Lowest right now
€802 7% below 30-day median

About the usual price. The lowest listing is around the 30-day average.

Median · 30d
€861
Available
2 listings · 1 source
Price against condition for 2 listings€833€880€926Excellent1Good1median €861€802

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Price against condition for 2 listings of Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”, €802 to €920, median €861. Excellent: 1 at €920. Good: 1 at €802. The full table follows.

Lowest & median price by condition for the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”
ConditionLowestMedian
Excellent€920€920
Good€802€802
Best price Good
LEITZ Leica Elmar L39 90mm/F4.0 Fat/ Rare Black Paint Lens LTM Germany Fat #21807
Sold by M&K Kamera
€802 ≈ $867

Price history

Over the last 7 weeks the median price for the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” has fallen, ranging from €861 to €862 (now €861).

Weekly price (EUR)
Median: Good or better Lowest: Good or better
€802€817€832€847€862MedianLowest
Jul 27Sep 28Oct 12Oct 26

Weekly price (EUR). Median (Good or better) and lowest (Good or better) across 7 weeks. The full figures follow in the table below.

The figures behind this chart
Weekly median and lowest price
WeekMedianLowest
Jul 27, 2026€862€803
Aug 3, 2026€862€803
Sep 28, 2026€861€802
Oct 5, 2026€861€802
Oct 12, 2026€861€802
Oct 19, 2026€862€803
Oct 26, 2026€861€802
What these condition grades mean

Every shop grades differently. Leica Classic uses letters, Ffordes uses E++ and E+, German dealers write "Zustand B", Japanese dealers write A−. We map all of them onto the one ladder below. Where a shop states its own grade, we print it under ours.

New
Unused, sold as current stock.Usually the maker's own store or a dealer's new inventory.
Mint
Used, but with no wear we can see described.Leica Classic A · Ffordes M
Excellent
Light wear, glass reported clean.Leica Classic A− and A/B · Ffordes E++ and E+ · Japanese A−
Good
Visible wear from use, optics reported sound.Leica Classic B · "Zustand B"
Fair
Heavy cosmetic wear, or a stated optical fault such as haze, fungus or cleaning marks.Leica Classic B−
Heavily used
Works, but wear or a fault affects using it.Leica Classic C
For parts
Not usable as sold.Leica Classic C− and D
Unknown
The listing said nothing we could grade. We show the seller's own words instead of guessing.

Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”: frequently asked

How much does the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” cost?

As of October 2026, the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” sells from €802 used, with a 30-day median of €861, across 2 active listings.

Where can I buy a Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”?

As of October 2026, the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” is sold by 1 source (2 listings), from €802 used: all compared cheapest-first on this page.

What filter size does the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” take?

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” takes 36 mm screw-in filters (E36).

How close does the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” focus?

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” focuses down to 1.8 m, and the rangefinder stays coupled over the whole range.

How heavy is the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat”?

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” weighs 340 g, lighter than 25% of the 8 other 90mm LTM-mount lenses in the catalogue.

Which cameras does the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” fit?

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” is a Leica screw-mount (M39/LTM) lens. It fits Leica M bodies with a screw-to-M adapter, which keeps rangefinder coupling, and mirrorless cameras with an M39 adapter. It carries no 6-bit code, so select the lens profile by hand on a digital M.

When was the Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” made?

The Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 “Fat” was produced from 1931 to 1932.

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